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20 February, 2008

FREEDOM FROM THE KNOWN ~KRISHNAMURTI


IS THERE ANYTHING NEW OR ORIGINAL IN EXPERIENCE?

What do we mean by experience? Is there anything new or original in experience? Experience is a bundle of memories responding to a challenge and it can respond only according to its background, and the cleverer you are at interpreting the experience the more it responds. So you have to question not only the experience of another but your own experience. If you don’t recognize an experience it isn’t an experience at all. Every experience has already been experienced or you wouldn’t recognize it. You recognize an experience as being good, bad, beautiful, holy and so on according to your conditioning, and therefore the recognition of an experience must inevitably be old.

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WE THINK THAT THROUGH EXPERIENCES WE CAN ESCAPE FROM OURSELVES

We all want experiences of some kind – the mystical experience, the religious experience, the sexual experience, the experience of having a great deal of money, power, position, domination. As we grow older we may have finished with the demands of our physical appetites but then we demand wider, deeper and more significant experiences, and we try various means to obtain them – expanding our consciousness, for instance, which is quite an art, or taking various kinds of drugs. This is an old trick which has existed from time immemorial – chewing a piece of leaf or experimenting with the latest chemical to bring about a temporary alteration in the structure of the brain cells, a greater sensitivity and heightened perception which give a semblance of reality. This demand for more and more experiences shows the inward poverty of man. We think that through experiences we can escape from ourselves but these experiences are conditioned by what we are. If the mind is petty, jealous, anxious, it may take the very latest form of drug but it will still see only its own little creation, its own little projections from its own conditioned background.

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A LIVING MIND IS A STILL MIND

…A living mind is a still mind, a living mind is a mind that has no centre and therefore no space and time. Such a mind is limitless and that is the only truth, that is the only reality.

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WHEN THERE IS A DYING EVERY DAY TO THE KNOWN

You are waiting for me to describe what this silence is so that you can compare it, interpret it, carry it away and bury it. It cannot be described. What can be described is the known, and the freedom from the known can come into being only when there is a dying every day to the known, to the hurts, the flatteries, to all the images you have made, to all your experiences – dying every day so that the brain cells themselves become fresh, young, innocent. But that innocency, that freshness, that quality of tenderness and gentleness, does not produce love; it is not the quality of beauty or silence.

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THE ENDING OF NOISE IS ONLY A SMALL BEGINNING

That silence which is not the silence of the ending of noise is only a small beginning. It is like going through a small hole to an enormous, wide, expansive ocean, to an immeasurable, timeless state. But this you cannot understand verbally unless you have understood the whole structure of consciousness and the meaning of pleasure, sorrow and despair, and the brain cells themselves have become quiet. Then perhaps you may come upon that mystery which nobody can reveal to you and nothing can destroy. …

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PEACE
TARA

06 February, 2008

NATURE IS THE BEST PREACHER --LIFE THE BEST TEACHER


October 1970
WALKING BUFFALO
DA NA WAQ (WHITE BEAVER)
AKWESASNE NOTES/ROOSEVELTOWN, NEW YORK 13683

March 20, 1871 - a great day in Morley, Alberta. It was on that day
that little Tatanga Mani (Walking Buffalo) was, born. In the years
that followed, he was adopted by white missionary John McDougall,
educated in white men's schools, returned to the reserve at Morley to
advise and guide his people, and finally in his old age, was asked to
act as an emissary of peace on behalf of the Canadian Government.

Join our Stoney brothers and hear his words.
"Nobody tries to make the coyotes act like beavers, or the eagles
behave like robins. Some Christians see themselves as set apart from
the rest of the animal and plant world by superiority, even as a
special creation.

Perhaps the principles of brotherhood which the world urgently needs
come more easily to the Indian. "
"Do you know that trees talk? Well, they do. They talk to each other,
and they'll talk to you, if you will listen.

Trouble is, many white people don't listen. They rarely listened to
the Indians, and so I don't suppose they'll listen to the other
voices in nature. But I have learned a lot from trees, sometimes
about the weather, sometimes about animals, sometimes about the Great
Spirit.

"We were lawless people but we were on pretty good terms with the
Great Spirit, creator and ruler of all. Many of you whites assumed we
were savages. You didn't understand our prayers. You didn't try to
understand.

When we sang or: praises to the sun or moon or wind, you said we were
worshipping idols. Without understanding, you condemned us as lost
souls just because our form of worship was different from yours.

"We saw the Great Spirit's work in almost everything: sun, moon,
trees, wind, and mountains. Sometimes we approached him through these
things. Was that so bad?

I think we have a true belief in the supreme being, a stronger faith
than that of most of the whites who have called us pagans. The red
savages have always lived closer to nature than have the white
savages.

Nature is the book of that great power which one man calls God and
which we call the Great Spirit. But, what difference does a name make?

"We had none of your denominations to split us, it introduce hatreds
in the name of religion. We had no man-made guides to 'right living';
nature was our guide. Nature is still Bible, and I've just returned
after many days of studying it.

"I'll tell you what I think. We were on better terms with the Great
Spirit before the white man came than we were after he confused us by
attempting to frighten its into joining his churches.

As devil worshippers, they said we were heading right down the road
to hell. Frighten us? Who wouldn't be frightened if they were told
they'd burn in a lake of fire forever if they didn't accept certain
teachings. The white man meant well. Many of the missionaries were my
friends, but they underestimated the Indian faith when they used fear
to make us change.

There is no such thing as hell to our native religion, and we can
never imagine the Great Spirit choosing to inflict everlasting
torture on man as a punishment.

"As I understand nature's ruler, he would not restrict the truth to a
few favoured humans, allowing the others to remain in eternal
darkness. If the Great Spirit is prepared to reveal secrets of
importance to people, he will give all humans in all lands an equal
chance of getting that enlightenment.

"My people have been searching for the truth for generations, and
they continue to find it. All races of people have conducted such
searches. Perhaps that explains why nearly all the world's religions
have points in common, like charity forgiveness, and belief in life
after death.

"Crowfoot of the Blackfeet tribe was a thinker, as everyone agrees,
but he never gave up his native religion. They coaxed him, but he
held on to his own beliefs. The old chief didn't ridicule your
religion and its teachers, but his own faith brought him enough
satisfaction and comfort.

The same could be said about Piapot. For years he was under pressure
to change. He didn't try to convert white men to his religion, but he
hated bigotry and he had no time for people who contended that the
white man's religion was inspired by the Creator but the Indian's was
not. Who do they suppose inspired the Indian's religion?"

At 87 years of age in London, England, he said: "It's not right
raising kids so far from nature. I suppose your boys and girls have
never seen pussy willows, robins building nests, or grass covered
hills. This pavement is fine for cars, but it is hard medicine for
children.

"Hills are always more beautiful than stone buildings, you know.
Living in a city is an artificial existence. Lots of people hardly
ever feel real soil under their feet, see plants grow except in
flower pots, or get far enough beyond the street lights to catch the
enchantment of a night sky studded with stars. When people live far
from scenes of the Great Spirit's making, it's easy for them to
forget his laws. "

In Germany: "I remember the war years. We were led to hate the
Germans. Now I think they are good people. I'd pitch my tent here
anytime. I'll never hate anybodv again. Hating hurts me more than it
hurts the other fellow. "

To all Indians, he said: "You see, we lost our land and our freedom,
but we don't have to lose all our Indian ways and habits. As good
Indians, we can make a substantial contribution to Canadian culture.
It may not have occurred to many white men that red, black, and
yellow peoples might have some good ideas about satisfying the
world's needs.

1'll never try to justify the foolish fighting and scalping my people
did, but in some ways, we had better ways of living. At least we kept
our fighting to small wars, whereas the so-called civilized whites go
in for big conflicts. "There's a lot of madness in the white man's
world.

We think whites would be better off to slow down and live closer to
the soil and forests and growing things, instead of galloping around
like stampeding buffaloes in cutback country. If they would take some
of our advice, they might find a contentment which they had not
discovered in their mad rush for money and for the pleasures which
they think it will buy. "

To all White Men, he said: "It's strange, but in trying to find
solutions to Indian problems, the authorities speak to nearly
everybody but Indians. Many of us could offer sound advice on this
question. But remember, we're proud of our race, and we want to
continue to be Indians. I was born with a bronze skin and I like it.
Some of my friends were born white or black or yellow. They were not
consulted. But that's all right. There are yellow roses, white roses,
and red roses and the fragrance of one is about as nice as another.

I hope my children will live in a world where people of all colors
can sit and work together without having to conform completely to the
majority's will . . . You must accept us as Indians who want to be
Indians and who are proud to be Indians. "

Death claimed our wise brother December 26, 1967, and the entire
world mourned. Any fool can be quarrelsome and belligerant. Being
half good and half bad takes neither effort nor skill. But being a
man of peace requires bravery.

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PEACE
TARA

IF YOU CANNOT SEE AND FEEL THE BEAUTY OF THE EARTH AND NATURE ALL AROUND YOU THEN....YOU CAN'T SEE.....
OUR PLANET IS OUR LIFE FORCE, IF WE HARM IT OR DESTROY IT ... WE THEN HARM AND DESTROY OURSELVES....IT'S THAT SIMPLE!